Going Deeper
Gospel conversations that challenge cultural narratives—nothing is too taboo here. We bring wisdom, humility, and grace to topics like mental health, social media, money, spiritual disciplines, and more.
Episodes
34 episodes
How to be a Doer of the Word with Mikella Van Dyke
What does it look like to move beyond simply consuming Scripture and actually let it shape the way we live?In this episode, Mikella Van Dyke shares practical ways to deepen your Bible study, build sustainable spiritual habits, a...
Empire vs. Kingdom: Would Jesus Be Building a Platform?
We live in a world obsessed with platform—followers, reach, metrics, influence. But what if the way of Jesus runs in the exact opposite direction? In this solo episode, I dig into the tension between the world's way of empire and the c...
When You Can’t Make Sense of God: Chad Bird Answers Bible Questions You're Afraid to Ask
What do you do when God's justice, His love, or His goodness stops making sense? In this episode, biblical scholar Chad Bird joins me to talk honestly about wrestling with faith's hardest questions. Chad shares his own journey through failure a...
How to Become a Morning Person Like Jesus (It's Not What You Think)
What if your mornings could be sacred instead of stressful—no matter whether you're a natural early riser or someone who dreads the alarm? In this episode, author Jennifer Dukes Lee joins me to reframe the whole idea of the "morning person." We...
How to Fall In Love with Scripture: Bible Study Secrets with Bethany Lauren
If you've ever wanted to know God more deeply but struggled to stay consistent in His Word, this conversation is for you. I sit down with Bible teacher Bethany Lauren (Simply Bible on Instagram)—pastor's wife, mom of two, and classical high sch...
Does God Care How Productive You Are? with Reagan Rose
What if productivity isn't about doing more, but about stewarding your life for God's glory? In this episode, Reagan Rose (founder of Redeeming Productivity) joins me to unpack what the Bible actually says about work, fruitfulness, and faithful...
A Better Way to Talk About Women's Roles in the Church with Jen Oshman
What does God actually say about womanhood? In a culture where the answer shifts depending on who you ask—redefine it, reject it, celebrate it, reinvent it—this episode goes back to Scripture itself. Justine sits down with author and Bible teac...
What Your Spiritual Disciplines are Missing: Dependency on God
We treat spiritual disciplines like a self-improvement checklist—read the Bible, pray, show up—and then wonder why it all feels like one more thing to manage. This episode digs into what's actually missing: not more willpower or a better routin...
Rethinking the Good Life: Comfort, Suffering, and the Presence of God with Shelbi Shutt
In this episode of the Going Deeper podcast, I sit down with speaker Shelbi Shutt to talk about faith, suffering, and what real comfort looks like in a world obsessed with ease and leisure. Shelbi lives with muscular dystrophy, and her story ha...
Longing for Home in a Rootless and Restless World with my Editor Eddie Larow
In this episode of the Going Deeper podcast, I sit down with my own acquisitions editor, Eddie Larow of Baker Books. We talk about what an acquisitions editor actually does, how he helps authors connect with the readers who need their ...
A Devotional Reading of Philippians and How I'm Leaning Into Advent
In this episode, I’m sharing why Advent has become such a meaningful season for me—one marked by anticipation, preparation, and a deliberate slowing down. I talk through some of the practices my family and I are leaning into this year, why I’m ...
On Compassionate Wardrobes, Self-Righteousness, and What the Self-Esteem Movement Gets Wrong with Sharon Hodde Miller
In this episode of Going Deeper, I talk with Sharon Hodde Miller about the growing problem of self-righteousness among Christians online, especially after Charlie Kirk's assassination. We unpack how the self-esteem movement has ...
The Wellness Gospel, Radical Faith, and What to Do When You Don't "Feel" God
In this episode of Going Deeper, I’m unpacking the idea of the “Wellness Gospel”—the subtle belief that health and self-optimization can save us. I share about my own journey with health and wellness, and how something good slowly beca...
Influencer Culture, ChatGPT Boundaries, and Why Reading Your Bible Is So Hard—And What to Do About It
In this episode of Going Deeper, we're talking about ChatGPT boundaries, Influencer culture, and the spiritual discipline of Bible reading—and why its so hard. My hope is that this episode encourages you to stay spiritually awake and i...
A Theology of Happiness with Griffin Gooch
In this episode, I’m joined by Griffin Gooch to talk about one of the most misunderstood topics in both culture and the church—happiness. Griffin is a theologian and writer who’s exploring what it really means to live a happy and holy life, and...
Is Christian Charity Dead? Forrest Frank, Taylor Swift, and What the Bible Says About the World
Welcome back to Going Deeper! After a short break, I’m so excited to return with a brand-new season—and to finally share a few updates on what’s been happening behind the scenes, including my upcoming book on the “good life” and my new...
A Pastor's Thoughts for the Christian in the Wake of Charlie Kirk's Assassination
In this episode of the Going Deeper podcast, I sit down with Jonathan Carl—an old pastor and friend—to talk through the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination. We explore what this moment means for Christians trying to navigate the tricky in...
How Should Christians Think About Modern Beauty Treatments?
In this episode, I’m exploring the complex world of cultural beauty standards and self-perception through a biblical lens. I address the tension we experience regarding personal choices about our appearance, what it means to bear God’s image, a...
If a Demon Tempted a Woman with Tilly Dillehay
In this episode of the Going Deeper podcast, host Justine Ordway interviews Tilly Dillehay, author of 'My Dear Hemlock'. They discuss the inspiration behind the book, which is a fictional exploration of feminine virtues and vices, inspired by C...
An Honest Conversation About Prayer
In this episode of the Going Deeper podcast, I’m joined by my friend Bethany for a heartfelt conversation about prayer—especially in the thick of motherhood. Bethany shares her journey to faith and how her prayer life has grown and cha...
How Is The Joy of the Lord Our Strength?
In this episode, I’m diving into the often-quoted verse, “The joy of the Lord is your strength,” from Nehemiah 8:10. We’ll take a closer look at the context of this verse—what was happening with the Israelites after their return from exile, and...
Screen Addictions, Dumb Phones, and Choosing the Better Portion with Lauren Bowerman
In this episode, I’m joined by Lauren Bowerman to talk about the pull of digital distractions and what led her to make the switch to a dumb phone. We dive into the heart behind her decision, how it’s impacted her daily life and relationships, a...
The Cognitive Dissonance of Spiritual Amnesia
In today’s episode, I’m coming to you straight from my living room with a smorgasbord of updates and reflections. I share a little life update (new job, sickness, and the decision to almost quit the podcast), along with a heartfelt thank you fo...
Hope & Help For Your Anxiety
Today, we're diving into the topic of anxiety and aiming to leave you feeling hopeful and equipped to starve out the worry in your life. I’ll share my experiences with anxiety, including postpartum struggles and my first panic attack. We'll dis...
Canceling our Critical Spirits
In today's episode, we're diving into the issue of having a critical spirit, especially as it's been absorbed into our culture and personal relationships through social media. There’s a lot of negativity out there, especially from some Christia...